Episodes

6 days ago
6 days ago
In this episode from 2022, Alex speaks with Thomas Bunting about politics, democracy, social progress and more as they relate to baseball and athletics more broadly.

Wednesday Apr 01, 2026
Bryce Tingle - How Are Regulations Damaging Markets?
Wednesday Apr 01, 2026
Wednesday Apr 01, 2026
In this episode from 2024, Alex speaks with Bryce Tingle about corporations, how these unique legal entities are governed, how changes we have made to corporate governance has discouraged companies from joining Canada’s public markets, and how the decline in our public market is hurting Canadians.
Episode Notes:
1. Bryce’s article “Returning Markets To The Centre Of Corporate Law”
https://jcl.law.uiowa.edu/sites/jcl.law.uiowa.edu/files/2023-09/Tingle_Final.pdf
2. Bryce’s profile at UofCalgary
https://profiles.ucalgary.ca/bryce-tingle
3. Jensen and Meckley’s “The Theory Of The Firm”
https://www.sfu.ca/~wainwrig/Econ400/jensen-meckling.pdf
4. Introduction to Douglass North’s theory of Institutions:
https://link.springer.com/article/10.1007/s40803-016-0028-8
5. Summary of Montesquieu’s “Doux Commerce”
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Doux_commerce
6. Mill on Trade As a Social Act:
https://www.utilitarianism.com/ol/five.html
7. The Voltaire quote referenced regarding the London Stock Exchange:
https://www.goodreads.com/quotes/7351337-go-into-the-london-stock-exchange-a-more-respectable

Wednesday Mar 25, 2026
Nigel Ashford - Can We Change The World For Liberty?
Wednesday Mar 25, 2026
Wednesday Mar 25, 2026
In this episode from 2023, Alex speaks with Nigel Ashford about the prospects for a freer world and how the memory of history, the hope of younger persons, and the teaching of ideas can shape the future of classical liberalism.
Further Reading:
https://libertarianism.uk/wp-content/uploads/2022/03/socin003.pdf
Chapter 2 of this book: https://iea.org.uk/wp-content/uploads/2016/07/Blundell-interactive.pdf
https://fee.org/articles/the-tide-in-the-affairs-of-men/
https://cdn.mises.org/Intellectuals%20and%20Socialism_4.pdf
https://www.libertarianism.org/publications/essays/why-do-intellectuals-oppose-capitalism
http://wordlist.narod.ru/Government-Failure.pdf

Wednesday Mar 18, 2026
Is An Examined Education Better? - Nick Cowen
Wednesday Mar 18, 2026
Wednesday Mar 18, 2026
In this episode, Alex speaks with Nick Cowen about why an “examined education” is better than an unexamined one. Drawing on his paper, Nick argues that exams are valuable not just as external assessments but as opportunities for students to test themselves, build confidence, develop resilience, and discover what they actually know rather than what they merely think they know.
References
- “An Examined Education” — Nick Cowen https://papers.ssrn.com/sol3/papers.cfm?abstract_id=6261178
- The Theory of Moral Sentiments — Adam Smith https://a.co/d/0iSQvp4l
- “Why I Am Not a Conservative” — F. A. Hayek https://press.uchicago.edu/books/excerpt/2011/hayek_constitution.html
- Graduate premium in the UK and debates over higher education quality https://theskillsagenda.substack.com/p/a-declining-graduate-premium
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Wednesday Mar 11, 2026
Stefanie Haeffele - Can We Live Better Together?
Wednesday Mar 11, 2026
Wednesday Mar 11, 2026
In this episode from 2023, Alex speaks with Stefanie Haeffele about her book Living Better Together, which explores the work of Elinor Ostrom and Viviana Zelizer.
Episode Notes:
"Living Better Together" by Stefanie Haeffele and Virgil Henry Storr:
Viviana Zelizer's homepage at Princeton:
https://sociology.princeton.edu/people/viviana-zelizer
Elinor Ostrom's bio and short autobiography on the Nobel website:
https://www.nobelprize.org/prizes/economic-sciences/2009/ostrom/facts/
Nonneutrality of Money in a Social Perspective by Julia Włodarczyk
https://www.researchgate.net/publication/274184545_Nonneutrality_of_Money_in_a_Social_Perspective
Zelizer's "Circuits of Commerce"
https://doi.org/10.1525/california/9780520241367.003.0009
Ostrom's "Governing The Commons"
Economic Lives: How Culture Shapes the Economy by
Viviana A. Zelizer
https://press.princeton.edu/books/hardcover/9780691139364/economic-lives
"Testing Circuits of Commerce in the Distant Past: Archaeological Understandings of Social Relationships and Economic Lives"
by: Crystal A. Dozier

Wednesday Mar 04, 2026
Eric Mack - Why Read Anarchy, State and Utopia? (Part Two)
Wednesday Mar 04, 2026
Wednesday Mar 04, 2026
In part two of this episode from 2022, Alex speaks again with philosopher Eric Mack about "Anarchy, State and Utopia", this time touching on some of the challenges to Nozick's theory and Eric's own personal connection to Robert Nozick during his life.
References
1. Part 1 of Eric Mack’s The Curious Task Episode on “Why Read Anarchy, State, and Utopia?”
Link: https://thecurioustask.podbean.com/e/ep-145-eric-mack-why-read-anarchy-state-and-utopia/
2. Eric Mack’s Previous Episode “Why Not Socialism?” on the Curious Task Podcast
Link: https://thecurioustask.podbean.com/e/ep-7-eric-mack-%e2%80%94-why-not-socialism/
3. “Anarchy, State, and Utopia” by Robert Nozick
Link: https://www.amazon.ca/Anarchy-State-Utopia-Robert-Nozick/dp/0465051006
4. “Who Would Choose Socialism” by Robert Nozick
Link: https://reason.com/1978/05/01/who-would-chose-socialism/

Wednesday Feb 25, 2026
Eric Mack - Why Read Anarchy, State and Utopia?
Wednesday Feb 25, 2026
Wednesday Feb 25, 2026
In this episode from 2022, Alex speaks with Philosopher Eric Mack about Robert Nozick's "Anarchy State and Utopia" and how the book shaped the conversation around natural rights theory, philosophical libertarianism, and the study of political utopias for decades to come.
References
1. Eric Mack’s Previous Episode “Why Not Socialism?” on the Curious Task Podcast
Link: https://thecurioustask.podbean.com/e/ep-7-eric-mack-%e2%80%94-why-not-socialism/
2. “Anarchy, State, and Utopia” by Robert Nozick
Link: https://www.amazon.ca/Anarchy-State-Utopia-Robert-Nozick/dp/0465051006
3. “Robert Nozick” by Britannica
Link: https://www.britannica.com/biography/Robert-Nozick
4. “Murray Rothbard” by Mises Institute
Link: https://mises.org/profile/murray-n-rothbard
5. “A Theory of Justice” by John Rawls
Link: https://www.amazon.ca/Theory-Justice-Revised-John-Rawls/dp/0674000781

Wednesday Feb 18, 2026
Eric Schliesser - Is Post-Liberalism Already Here?
Wednesday Feb 18, 2026
Wednesday Feb 18, 2026
In this conversation from 2024, Alex speaks with Eric Schliesser about the growing declarations of the end of liberalism and what this means for the socio-political future in general.
Episode Notes:
- Eric Schliesser’s page at the University of Amsterdam https://www.uva.nl/en/profile/s/c/e.s.schliesser/e.s.schliesser.html#Publications
- Kevin Vallier’s episode of this podcast discussing religious anti-liberalism: https://thecurioustask.podbean.com/e/197-kevin-vallier-what-are-the-new-religious-threats-to-liberalism/
- Adrian Vermeulen’s publications https://hls.harvard.edu/faculty/adrian-vermeule/
- Tom Pink’s page at King’s College London: https://www.kcl.ac.uk/people/thomas-pink
- Yoram Hazony’s book on conservatism: https://www.kcl.ac.uk/people/thomas-pink
- Jacob Levy on borders and liberalism: https://www.niskanencenter.org/law-and-border/

Wednesday Feb 11, 2026
Reem Ibrahim - Did Brexit Succeed?
Wednesday Feb 11, 2026
Wednesday Feb 11, 2026
In this episode, Matt speaks with Reem Ibrahim about whether Brexit can be considered a success six years after the UK left the European Union. They examine the classical-liberal case for Brexit (focused on sovereignty, deregulation, and free trade) and contrast it with a post-Brexit reality in which many EU-era regulations, trade barriers, and interventionist policies remain. While the most catastrophic “Project Fear” predictions did not come true, Ibrahim argues that Brexit’s promised freedoms have largely gone unused, leaving its long-term success still unresolved.
References
Brexit Referendum (2016) — https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/politics/eu_referendum/results
Project Fear — https://ukandeu.ac.uk/why-take-back-control-trumped-project-fear/
Institute of Economic Affairs (IEA)’s Analysis of Brexit’s impact on trade — https://iea.org.uk/wp-content/uploads/2023/11/Perspectives_5_Has-Brexit-really-harmed-UK-trade__web-1.pdf
Brexit: The Movie — https://www.youtube.com/c/brexitthemovie
UK–EU Trade and Cooperation Agreement — https://commission.europa.eu/strategy-and-policy/relations-united-kingdom/eu-uk-trade-and-cooperation-agreement_en
CPTPP (Comprehensive and Progressive Agreement for Trans-Pacific Partnership) — https://www.gov.uk/government/collections/the-uk-and-the-comprehensive-and-progressive-agreement-for-trans-pacific-partnershipcptpp
Working Time Directive — https://employment-social-affairs.ec.europa.eu/policies-and-activities/rights-work/labour-law/working-conditions/working-time-directive_en
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Wednesday Feb 04, 2026
Franco Terrazzano - What Is Government Waste?
Wednesday Feb 04, 2026
Wednesday Feb 04, 2026
In this episode, Alex speaks with Franco Terrazano about government spending, taxation, and fiscal accountability in Canada, with a focus on how deficits, debt, and expanding bureaucracy effect affordability for ordinary Canadians. Franco outlines where federal spending has grown most rapidly, critiques the lack of clear priorities and performance measurement, and explains how interest payments on the debt increasingly crowd out core public services.
References
Canadian Taxpayers Federation https://www.taxpayer.com/
Federal Budget of Canada (most recent edition) https://budget.canada.ca/home-accueil-en.html
Public Accounts of Canada https://www.canada.ca/en/public-services-procurement/services/payments-accounting/public-accounts.html
Canada’s Debt and Interest Charges https://www.fraserinstitute.org/sites/default/files/2025-08/federal-and-provincial-debt-interest-costs-for-canadians-2025.pdf
Government Program Spending Growth Since 2015 https://www.fraserinstitute.org/studies/explaining-growth-federal-program-spending-2015
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Wednesday Jan 28, 2026
Sabine Benoit - Why Is Canada In A Housing Crisis?
Wednesday Jan 28, 2026
Wednesday Jan 28, 2026
Alex interviews Sabine Benoit of the Consumer Choice Center on Canada’s housing crisis. Sabine argues the main causes are chronic undersupply plus policy barriers: zoning that blocks “missing middle” density, long approval timelines/red tape, and high development fees that get passed to buyers. They also cover why immigration is often scapegoated despite being only part of the story, and why governments should focus on enabling private building (and targeted skilled-trades immigration) rather than new government developer programs.
References:
- Consumer Choice Center (CCC): https://consumerchoicecenter.org/
- Sabine’s article in The Hub: https://thehub.ca/2026/01/14/only-the-richest-canadians-are-able-to-afford-homes-its-time-to-free-the-market-deepdive/
- TD Economics Housing Market Outlook: https://economics.td.com/ca-provincial-housing-outlook
- Scotiabank study: https://www.scotiabank.com/ca/en/about/economics/economics-publications/post.other-publications.housing.housing-note.housing-note--march-19-2025-.html
- CMHC Supply Study: https://www.cmhc-schl.gc.ca/professionals/housing-markets-data-and-research/housing-research/research-reports/accelerate-supply/canadas-housing-supply-shortages-a-new-framework
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Wednesday Jan 21, 2026
Graeme Thompson - What Is Canada's Role In The World?
Wednesday Jan 21, 2026
Wednesday Jan 21, 2026
In this conversation from 2025, Alex Aragona speaks with Graeme Thompson about Canada's evolving role on the global stage, from Confederation through to the post-Cold War era and into the geopolitical uncertainties of today. They explore Canada’s historical balancing act between major powers, its close alignment with the United Kingdom and later the United States, and its present-day challenges in maintaining global relevance amid military underinvestment and economic stagnation. Thompson argues that Canada must become more serious about geopolitics if it wants to protect its sovereignty and remain influential internationally.
References
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“Canadians no longer take geopolitics seriously – and our neglect is going to cost us” by Graeme Thompson (The Hub)
https://thehub.ca/2024-04-03/graeme-thompson-canadians-no-longer-take-geopolitics-seriously-and-our-neglect-is-going-to-cost-us/ -
Biography Collection: Ogdensburg Agreement and Canadian Wartime Diplomacy (Dictionary of Canadian Biography)
https://www.biographi.ca/en/topics/topic-match-list.php?id=1504 -
Statute of Westminster (1931) – Recognized Canada’s legislative independence from Britain
https://www.thecanadianencyclopedia.ca/en/article/statute-of-westminster -
NATO Archives: Canada's Role and Early Involvement
https://www.nato.int/cps/en/natohq/declassified_161511.htm -
Canada–U.S. Automotive Products Agreement (Auto Pact)
https://www.thecanadianencyclopedia.ca/en/article/canada-us-automotive-products-agreement -
Lament for a Nation by George Grant
https://a.co/d/bnRI7Rb -
Canada’s Military Expenditure and NATO’s 2% Spending Target (Parliamentary Budget Officer)
https://www.pbo-dpb.ca/en/publications/RP-2223-010-S--canada-military-expenditure-nato-2-spending-target--depenses-militaires-canada-objectif-depenses-2-otan
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Wednesday Jan 14, 2026
Abigail Hall - How Does Government Propaganda Manufacture Militarism?
Wednesday Jan 14, 2026
Wednesday Jan 14, 2026
In this episode from 2022, Alex speaks with Abigail Hall about propaganda - an elusive and at times far-reaching concept that can be found everywhere: from overt wartime speeches by presidents to covert uses of sports and film to promote the ends of state militarism.
References
1. “Manufacturing Militarism: U.S. Government Propaganda in the War on Terror” by Christopher J. Coyne and Abigail R. Hall
Link: https://www.amazon.ca/Manufacturing-Militarism-Government-Propaganda-Terror/dp/1503628361
2. “Tyranny Comes Home: The Domestic Fate of U.S. Militarism” by Christopher J. Coyne and Abigail R. Hall
Link: https://www.amazon.ca/Tyranny-Comes-Home-Domestic-Militarism/dp/1503605272
3. Abigail Hall’s Previous Episode on The Curious Task
4. “Keep Calm and Carry On” Poster
Link: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Keep_Calm_and_Carry_On
5. “Uncle Sam” Poster
Link: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Uncle_Sam
6. “Smith-Mundt Act” by US Agency for Global Media
Link: https://www.usagm.gov/who-we-are/oversight/legislation/smith-mundt/
7. “Dick Cheney” by Britannica
Link: https://www.britannica.com/biography/Dick-Cheney
8. “Biographies of Secretaries of State: Colin Powell (1937-2021)” by Office of the Historian
Link: https://history.state.gov/departmenthistory/people/powell-colin-luther
9. “Biographies of Secretaries of State: Condoleezza Rice (1954-)” by Office of the Historian
Link: https://history.state.gov/departmenthistory/people/rice-condoleezza
10. “Pat Tillman” by Britannica
Link: https://www.britannica.com/biography/Pat-Tillman
11. “The Life and Death of Phil Strub” by Spy Culture
Link: https://www.spyculture.com/the-life-and-death-of-phil-strub/
12. “Windtalkers” by IMDb
Link: https://www.imdb.com/title/tt0245562/
13. “Top Gun” by IMDb
Link: https://www.imdb.com/title/tt0092099/
14. "Transformers" by IMDb

Wednesday Jan 07, 2026
Chris Coyne - How Do You Run A War?
Wednesday Jan 07, 2026
Wednesday Jan 07, 2026
In this episode from 2024, Alex speaks with Chris Coyne about the complexities and ramifications of war, focusing on the interplay between media narratives, propaganda, and the impact on civil liberties, drawing insights from Coyne's book co-authored with Abigail Hall, which is a satirical guide on war strategies and their broader societal implications.
Episode Notes:
Chris and Abigail's book "How to Run Wars": https://www.independent.org/store/book.asp?id=145
1. Bruce Winton Knight's "How To Run A War": https://www.amazon.com/How-Run-War-Bruce-Knight/dp/B000OMR1KG
2. Herman and Chomsky's "Manufacturing Consent": https://www.amazon.ca/Manufacturing-Consent-Political-Economy-Media/dp/0375714499
3. Noam Chomsky's website: https://chomsky.info/
4. Alexis de Tocqueville's biography, including reference to his distinction between hard and soft despotism: https://www.britannica.com/biography/Alexis-de-Tocqueville
5. Otto Neurath's "Through War Economy to Economy in Kind" https://link.springer.com/chapter/10.1007/978-94-010-2525-6_5
6. Abigail Hall and Christopher Coyne "Manufacturing Militarism: U.S. Government Propaganda in the War on Terror": https://www.amazon.ca/Manufacturing-Militarism-Government-Propaganda-Terror/dp/1503628361

Wednesday Dec 31, 2025
What Is The Path Out Of Poverty? - Randy Hicks
Wednesday Dec 31, 2025
Wednesday Dec 31, 2025
Matt speaks with Randy Hicks (CEO of the Georgia Center for Opportunity) about why jobs and social capital matter, how government programs can stabilize but often fail to help people escape poverty, and what reforms might better support work and self-sufficiency. They also discuss the benefits cliff, UBI, the role of civil society (including faith-based organizations), Utah’s “one door” model, and the minimum wage.
References
- The Georgia Center for Opportunity: https://foropportunity.org/
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Alliance for Opportunity: https://allianceforopportunity.com/
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The "One-Door Path": https://allianceforopportunity.com/focus/safety-nets/one-door-2/
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“Benefits cliff”: https://freopp.org/whitepapers/fixing-the-broken-incentives-in-the-u-s-welfare-system/
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Milton Friedman and the Negative Income Tax proposal: https://www.econlib.org/library/Enc/NegativeIncomeTax.html
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Mike Rowe’s Dirty Jobs and the dignity/value of work: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=x17ip3ZwG0Q
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Wednesday Dec 24, 2025
Kevin Erdmann - Why Are We Afraid Of Building Homes?
Wednesday Dec 24, 2025
Wednesday Dec 24, 2025
In this conversation from 2024, Alex speaks with Kevin Erdmann about how zoning, the 2008 economic crisis, and the desire to live away from "those people" is effecting the state of housing.
Episode Notes:
Kevin's page at the Mercatus Centre:
https://www.mercatus.org/scholars/kevin-erdmann
The Erdmann Housing Tracker:
https://kevinerdmann.substack.com/
Kevin on X:
https://x.com/KAErdmann?ref_src=twsrc%5Egoogle%7Ctwcamp%5Eserp%7Ctwgr%5Eauthor
Kevin's book "Shut Out: How a Housing Shortage Caused the Great Recession and Crippled our Economy" on Amazon Canada:

Wednesday Dec 17, 2025
What Is The New Right? - Sean Speer
Wednesday Dec 17, 2025
Wednesday Dec 17, 2025
In this episode, Matt speaks with Sean Speer about the rise of the so-called “New Right” and the growing tension between conservatism and classical liberalism. Speer defends a fusionist vision rooted in ordered liberty, pluralism, and institutional restraint, arguing that attempts to use state power to impose cultural outcomes misunderstand how culture actually evolves. Together, they explore elite anxiety, civil society, immigration, and why liberal means remain essential even for those with conservative ends.
References
Sean's author page at The Hub:
https://thehub.ca/author/seanspeer/
What Is Conservatism? — edited by Frank S. Meyer
https://a.co/d/5suzcP4
The Road to Serfdom — F. A. Hayek
https://a.co/d/evGqw3L
The Crooked Timber of Humanity — Isaiah Berlin
https://a.co/d/4PuAvLB
Bourgeois Dignity / Bourgeois Equality — Deirdre McCloskey
https://a.co/d/8B7qlQV
The Anywhere vs Somewhere Divide — David Goodhart (interview)
https://www.commonplace.org/p/somewheres-and-anywheres-with-david
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Wednesday Dec 10, 2025
What Do Companies Owe Society? - Abraham Singer
Wednesday Dec 10, 2025
Wednesday Dec 10, 2025
In this episode, Alex speaks with Abraham Singer about his book Everyone’s Business, exploring why businesses and other private organizations should be understood not only as economic entities but as political communities that shape power, responsibility, and moral life. Singer explains how firms structure our choices, why classical liberals must take internal organizational governance more seriously, and what it means to treat workplaces as sites of real political and ethical significance.
References
Everyone’s Business: Toward a New Understanding of How Organizations Shape Our Lives - Abraham Singer
https://a.co/d/iz5yWEU
“The Form Of The Firm” - Abraham Singer
https://global.oup.com/academic/product/the-form-of-the-firm-9780197586860?cc=ca&lang=en&
Abraham's Scholarly Articles
https://abrahamsinger.weebly.com/research.html
“The Political Nature of the Firm and the Cost of Norms” - Abraham Singer
https://www.jstor.org/stable/26550924
Private Government - Elizabeth Anderson
https://a.co/d/gNrwGK2
The Nature of the Firm - Ronald Coase
https://www.jstor.org/stable/2626876
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Wednesday Dec 03, 2025
What's Wrong With The Notwithstanding Clause? - Leonid Sirota
Wednesday Dec 03, 2025
Wednesday Dec 03, 2025
In this episode, Alex speaks with constitutional scholar Leonid Sirota about the notwithstanding clause—what it does, how it functions within Canada’s constitutional architecture, and why its routine use undermines the very rights the Charter is meant to protect. Drawing on arguments from his National Post piece and earlier writing, Sirota explains why Section 33 was intended as an exceptional political safeguard, not a convenient escape hatch for governments, and why treating it as a routine tool erodes constitutionalism, weakens judicial oversight, and shifts the balance of power away from individuals and toward the state.
References
Leonid Sirota, “Yes, the notwithstanding clause overrides rights. No, it isn’t defensible.” — National Post
https://nationalpost.com/opinion/leonid-sirota-yes-the-notwithstanding-clause-overrides-rights-no-it-isnt-defensible
“The Case Against the Notwithstanding Clause” — Leonid Sirota (Double Aspect)
https://doubleaspect.blog/2018/10/04/the-case-against-the-notwithstanding-clause/
“Notwithstanding Myths” — Leonid Sirota (Double Aspect)
https://doubleaspect.blog/2025/11/10/notwithstanding-myths/
Peter W. Hogg, Constitutional Law of Canada
https://digitalcommons.osgoode.yorku.ca/faculty_books/219/
The Constitution Act, 1982 (Section 33 — the Notwithstanding Clause)
https://www.justice.gc.ca/eng/csj-sjc/rfc-dlc/ccrf-ccdl/check/art33.html
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Wednesday Nov 26, 2025
How Can We Do Indigenous Reconciliation Better? - Karen Restoule
Wednesday Nov 26, 2025
Wednesday Nov 26, 2025
In this episode, Matt interviews Karen Restoule on the challenge of Indigenous reconciliation in Canada. Restoule stresses that true reconciliation must begin by re-embracing the vision of coexistence enshrined in early agreements such as the Treaty of Niagara — a relationship based on mutual respect and shared sovereignty — and not merely through state apologies or symbolic gestures.
References
- Karen Restoule: Reconciliation requires looking back to move forward — The Hub (2025)
https://thehub.ca/2025/09/30/karen-restoule-reconciliation-requires-looking-back-to-move-forward/ - Karen Restoule — profile and bio (Macdonald-Laurier Institute)
https://macdonaldlaurier.ca/cm-expert/karen-restoule/ - “’The best is yet to come’ for Indigenous peoples: Karen Restoule on why reconciliation is a tangible goal and not a romantic notion” — Hub Dialogues (podcast)
https://thehub.ca/podcast/audio/karen-restoule-on-why-reconciliation-is-a-tangible-goal-and-not-a-romantic-notion/ - “An Overview of the Indian Residential School System” — Union of Ontario Indians / research compiled by Karen Restoule (PDF)
https://www.anishinabek.ca/wp-content/uploads/2016/07/An-Overview-of-the-IRS-System-Booklet.pdf - Reconciliation Canada — about the non-profit working on reconciliation history & public awareness
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Reconciliation_Canada - “The Baroness von Sketch Show” — sketch series (mentioned in episode)
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xlG17C19nYo - Karen’s social media post with the map referred to in the episode: https://www.linkedin.com/feed/update/urn:li:activity:7394536450693718016/
- Amber Midthunder’s guest appearance on Reservation Dogs (mentioned in episode)
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=r8UpKVImNcU
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