
We explore philosophy, politics, economics, and other ideas from a classical liberal perspective.
Episodes

Jun 19, 2024
Jun 19, 2024
1 hr 30 min
Sabine speaks with Jonathan Blanks about why and how systemic racism exists in society, and what can potentially be done to curb it in various aspects of institutional life.
Episode Notes:
- The Foundation for Research on Equal Opportunity: https://freopp.org/
- An article by Jonathan on defining systemic racism: https://freopp.org/what-systemic-racism-is-and-isnt-1213c1c972ff
- Ghettoside: A True Story of Murder in America (2015) by Jill Leovy https://a.co/d/8f9JGqB
- 13th trailer: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=K6IXQbXPO3I

Jun 12, 2024
Jun 12, 2024
1 hr 17 min
Alex speaks with Kevin Erdmann about how zoning, the 2008 economic crisis, and the desire to live away from "those people" is effecting the state of housing today.
Episode Notes:
Kevin's page at the Mercatus Centre:
https://www.mercatus.org/scholars/kevin-erdmann
The Erdmann Housing Tracker:
https://kevinerdmann.substack.com/
Kevin on X:
https://x.com/KAErdmann?ref_src=twsrc%5Egoogle%7Ctwcamp%5Eserp%7Ctwgr%5Eauthor
Kevin's book "Shut Out: How a Housing Shortage Caused the Great Recession and Crippled our Economy" on Amazon Canada:

Jun 5, 2024
Jun 5, 2024
1 hr 12 min
Alex speaks with Dominic Parker about his 2024 paper with Dean Lueck entitled "The Economic Origins And Extent Of America's First Environmental Agencies"
Episode Notes:
Dominic's paper: https://aae.wisc.edu/dparker/wp-content/uploads/sites/12/2024/11/Lueck-and-Parker-Agencies-November-2024.pdf
Some history on the conservation movement from 1850-1920 via the American Library of Congress:
https://www.loc.gov/item/00529694/

May 29, 2024
May 29, 2024
1 hr 4 min
Episode Notes:
- Ryan’s book that serves as the basis for most of the discussion:
https://a.co/d/6B4n1Uf
- Summary of Friedman, Monetarist School and the K-percent rule https://www.investopedia.com/terms/m/monetarism.asp#:~:text=In%20his%20book%2C%20%22A%20Monetary,a%20fixed%20percentage%20per%20year
- Explanation of greedflation: https://cssh.northeastern.edu/what-is-greedflation-and-is-it-driving-higher-prices/
- Kahneman and Thaler's research: https://www.jstor.org/stable/1806070
- Clemens on minimum wage
https://econweb.ucsd.edu/~j1clemens/pdfs/ClemensMinWageCatoPolicyAnalysis867.pdf

May 22, 2024
May 22, 2024
57 min
Alex speaks with Donner prize nominee Kent Roach about a topic that many Canadians may overlook when thinking about issues that are recurring at home: wrongful convictions and its victims.
Episode Notes:
- Kent's award-winning book "Wrongfully Convicted: Guilty Pleas, Imagined Crimes, and What Canada Must Do to Safeguard Justice" https://a.co/d/d9mB5cN
- Canadian Registry of Wrongful Convictions: https://www.wrongfulconvictions.ca/
- The Innocence Project at Cardozo: https://innocenceproject.org/about/
- Blackstone's ratio: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Blackstone%27s_ratio
- Charles Smith (pathologist) background: https://www.cbc.ca/news/canada/dr-charles-smith-the-man-behind-the-public-inquiry-1.864004
- R v Gladue: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/R_v_Gladue
- Richard Catchaway case: https://www.cbc.ca/news/canada/manitoba/richard-catcheway-wrongful-conviction-1.4681737
- The Morin case on CRWC https://www.wrongfulconvictions.ca/cases/guy-paul-morin
- The Goudge report on pediatric forensic pathology: https://wayback.archive-it.org/16312/20211207211516/https://www.attorneygeneral.jus.gov.on.ca/inquiries/goudge/index.html
- The David Milgaard case: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/David_Milgaard

May 15, 2024
May 15, 2024
1 hr 6 min
Matt speaks with Ethan Nadelmann about drug decriminalization, legalization, and the slow end to the drug war in Canada and the United States, and how successes and failures in both countries compare to those abroad.
Episode Notes:
The Drug Policy Alliance website: https://drugpolicy.org/
Some history on Portugal's Drug Harm Reduction Programs: https://americanaddictioncenters.org/blog/portugals-harm-reduction-policies
Philip Owen's obituary highlighting some of his successes in Vancouver as mayor: https://vancouver.citynews.ca/2021/10/02/dtes-philip-owens-four-pillars//
Larry Cambell's call for opioid legalization: https://globalnews.ca/news/3260074/make-prescription-opioids-legal-says-senator-and-former-mayor-larry-campbell/
"Nudge: Improving Decisions About Health, Wealth, and Happiness" on Amazon Canada: https://a.co/d/36Y1M4L
Peltzman's original article studying drug availability: https://www.jstor.org/stable/1830639
Ed Preble's "Taking Care Of Business":
https://doi.org/10.3109/10826086909061998

May 8, 2024
May 8, 2024
1 hr 6 min
Matt speaks with Craig Biddle about objectivism and the legacy of Ayn Rand, and how it all ties to classical liberalism, the American ideal, and post-modernism.
Episode Notes:
Craig's work for the Objective Standard:
https://theobjectivestandard.com/author/cbiddle/
Craig on X:
https://twitter.com/CraigBiddle
Free Ayn Rand books courtesy of the Ayn Rand Institute, including almost all of those referenced throughout this episode:
https://aynrand.org/students/free-books/
Craig's talk "Choosing a Philosophy for Loving Life":

May 1, 2024
May 1, 2024
1 hr 16 min
Alex speaks with Bryce Tingle about corporations, how these unique legal entities are governed, how changes we have made to corporate governance has discouraged companies from joining Canada’s public markets, and how the decline in our public market is hurting Canadians.
Episode Notes:
1. Bryce’s article “Returning Markets To The Centre Of Corporate Law”
https://jcl.law.uiowa.edu/sites/jcl.law.uiowa.edu/files/2023-09/Tingle_Final.pdf
2. Bryce’s profile at UofCalgary
https://profiles.ucalgary.ca/bryce-tingle
3. Jensen and Meckley’s “The Theory Of The Firm”
https://www.sfu.ca/~wainwrig/Econ400/jensen-meckling.pdf
4. Introduction to Douglass North’s theory of Institutions:
https://link.springer.com/article/10.1007/s40803-016-0028-8
5. Summary of Montesquieu’s “Doux Commerce”
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Doux_commerce
6. Mill on Trade As a Social Act:
https://www.utilitarianism.com/ol/five.html
7. The Voltaire quote referenced regarding the London Stock Exchange:
https://www.goodreads.com/quotes/7351337-go-into-the-london-stock-exchange-a-more-respectable

Apr 24, 2024
Apr 24, 2024
56 min
Matt speaks with Eric Merkley about NIMBYism, the surprising touchpoints for unity between left and right on the subject of housing, and how uncovering the true motivations of NIMBYs has altered Eric's view of the housing crisis.
Episode Notes:
"Housing for Me, but not for Thee", Eric's paper serving as the basis for most of this conversation:
https://osf.io/preprints/7vmt3
Eric on X:
https://twitter.com/EricMerkley
Eric's article on the subject on Policy Options:
https://policyoptions.irpp.org/magazines/march-2024/nimby-housing-opinion/
Some background on Premier Ford's backtracking on housing policy: https://www.robinsappleby.com/post/bridge-beat/conservative-housing-policy-backtrack.-a-setback-to-home-builders-and-new-home-owners-alike

Apr 17, 2024
Apr 17, 2024
1 hr 1 min
Sabine speaks with Ben Klutsey about political polarization, commonalities between the United States and Canada, and his documentary on the subject entitled "Undivide Us"
Episode Notes:
The documentary's website with more information, a trailer and the option to request a screening: https://undivideusmovie.com/
Kevin Vallier's "Trust in a Polarized Age":
John Inazu's "Learning To Disagree":
Kevin Vallier on the Curious Task:
https://www.podbean.com/ew/pb-isuwy-d16f34

Apr 10, 2024
Apr 10, 2024
1 hr 7 min
Alex speaks with Rachael LaRose about the hidden costs of the pandemic, especially as they effected our commercial relationships, loose ties with individuals that once provided much value to our lives, and orthodox communities who rallied to prioritize faith in the face of fear.
Episode Notes:
- Rachael's webpage with past publications, etc.: https://www.rachaelbehr.com/
- "The Strength of Weak Ties" Mark S. Granovetter https://www.jstor.org/stable/2776392
- A summary of Ostrom's work on the governance of the commons: https://blogs.lse.ac.uk/lsereviewofbooks/2012/06/17/elinor-ostroms-work-on-governing-the-commons-an-appreciation/
- Rachael's coverage of the Orthodox Jewish community's healthcare action during the pandemic: https://www.econlib.org/library/columns/y2024/larosehealthcare.html

Apr 3, 2024
Apr 3, 2024
1 hr 13 min
Matt speaks with Sam Bowman about the global housing crisis and why, in English-speaking countries in particular, a growing consensus across the political divide is pointing to problems with central planning, NIMBYism and a supply limit as the causes.
Episode Notes:
- Sam Bowman’s on substack: https://substack.com/@sambowman
- Sam on "Vetocracy": https://www.sambowman.co/p/democracy-is-the-solution-to-vetocracy
- Sam’s “Housing Theory of Everything” article: https://worksinprogress.co/issue/the-housing-theory-of-everything/
- Works in Progress website: https://worksinprogress.co/
- Michael Giberson on Manser Olson's theory of concentrated costs and dispersed benefits: https://knowledgeproblem.com/2010/10/17/concentrated-benefits-and-dispersed-costs/
- Comparison of UK vs. US GDP per capita: https://countryeconomy.com/countries/compare/usa/uk

Mar 27, 2024
Mar 27, 2024
55 min
Alex speaks with Akshaya Kamalnath about her work on Corporate Diversity, the social pressures and cultural trends that corporations are facing, as well as the jurisdictional realities of handling diversity, amongst other issues.
Episode Notes:
Akshaya's page at ANU: https://researchers.anu.edu.au/researchers/kamalnath-a
Akshaya's blog:
corporatelawacademic.wordpress.com
"Legal and Market Initiatives to Increase Diversity in Corporations—A Cross-Jurisdictional Analysis" by Akshaya Kamalnath

Mar 20, 2024
Mar 20, 2024
1 hr 4 min
In May 2022, Alex spoke with Deirdre McCloskey in a wide-ranging conversation that addresses the economic, philosophical, and political reasons why liberalism just works. We're reposting that important conversation today on The Curious Task.
References
1. “Why Liberalism Works: How True Liberal Values Produce a Freer, More Equal, Prosperous World for All” by Dierdre Nansen McCloskey
Link: https://www.amazon.ca/Why-Liberalism-Works-Liberal-Prosperous/dp/0300235089
2. “The Bourgeois Virtues: Ethics for an Age of Commerce” by Dierdre Nansen McCloskey
Link: https://www.amazon.ca/Bourgeois-Virtues-Ethics-Age-Commerce/dp/0226556646
3. “Bourgeois Dignity: Why Economics Can’t Explain Modern World” by Dierdre Nansen McCloskey
Link: https://www.amazon.ca/Bourgeois-Dignity-Economics-Explain-Modern/dp/0226556743
4. “Bourgeois Equality: How Ideas, Not Capital or Institutions, Enriched the World”
Link: https://www.amazon.ca/Bourgeois-Equality-Capital-Institutions-Enriched/dp/022633399X
5. “Dierdre N. McCloskey presents the lecture ‘The Impossibility of Policy’ hosted by the Erasmus Forum” by the Cato Institute
6. “1984” by George Orwell
Link: https://www.amazon.ca/1984-George-Orwell/dp/0451524934
7. “Forever Flowing” by Vasily Grossman
Link: https://www.goodreads.com/book/show/88459.Forever_Flowing

Mar 13, 2024
Mar 13, 2024
1 hr 2 min
Alex speaks with Alex Nowrasteh about nationalism as more of an innate tendency towards ethnic tribalism than anything resembling patriotism, and how this tendency may never disappear, but is worth resisting nonetheless.
Episode Notes:
Alex's page at the Cato Insitute:
https://www.cato.org/people/alex-nowrasteh
Alex on X:
https://twitter.com/alexnowrasteh?lang=en
Alex's book "Wretched Refuse?: The Political Economy of Immigration and Institutions":

Mar 6, 2024
Mar 6, 2024
1 hr 3 min
Alex speaks with Oyebade Oyerinde about the state of federalism in Nigeria, and how western ideas of democracy, liberalism and centralization of powers have influenced the current state of politics in the African nation.
Episode Notes:
"Polycentric Interstate Federalism Among The Yoruba Of Nigeria: Lessons For Growing An International Federal Order" by Oyebade Kunle Oyerinde https://cosmosandtaxis.files.wordpress.com/2022/09/kunleoyerinde_ct_vol10_iss11_12.pdf
"Polycentric and Centralized Federalism in Africa" (Chapter 3) by Oyebade Kunle Oyerinde https://rowman.com/ISBN/9781666902716/Issues-of-Governance-Security-and-Development-in-Contemporary-Africa
"Does Polycentric Order Make Sense?" by Oyebade Kunle Oyerinde https://isonomiaquarterly.com/archive/volume-2-issue-1/disorder-in-west-africa-does-polycentric-order-make-sense/
"Beyond Markets and States: Polycentric Governance of Complex Economic Systems" By Elinor Ostrom https://web.pdx.edu/~nwallace/EHP/OstromPolyGov.pdf

Feb 28, 2024
Feb 28, 2024
48 min
Sabine speaks with Jason Kuznicki about the present, past, and future influence of technology on gender and why he questions the uproar made about a choice made by individuals in the market about their own self-expression and identity.
Episode Notes:
Jason's article "Gender as Essence and as Economic Choice" http://tinyurl.com/2p9byb5d
The Cosmos + Taxis issue on gender: http://tinyurl.com/2p9byb5d
Jason's newsletter "Pacification": http://tinyurl.com/yeycjzj

Feb 21, 2024
Feb 21, 2024
59 min
Alex speaks with Marian Tupy about the notion that human progress has increased quality of life worldwide for centuries, making today the greatest time to be alive in the history of human life (in spite of what you may have heard elsewhere).
Episode Notes:
- Marian's book "Superabundance: The Story of Population Growth, Innovation, and Human Flourishing on an Infinitely Bountiful Planet" on Amazon Canada: https://a.co/d/boeFBP3
- Marian's profile and bio on the FEE website: https://fee.org/people/marian-l-tupy/
- An article breaking down the Malthusian thinking in the Avengers movie referenced by Marian https://carnegiemnh.org/defeating-thanos-and-his-malthusian-mission-of-population-control/
- A Youtube video giving some history and context for the Simon - Ehrlich bet:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xw2mn40BVo0

Feb 14, 2024
Feb 14, 2024
57 min
Sabine speaks with Aeon Skoble about the harms of limiting access to information, including book bans and why a better understanding of ideas we disagree with often strengthens rather than weakens our arguments in support of the ideas we endorse.
Episode Notes:
- “Free Speech and the Function of a University” Aeon J. Skoble https://vc.bridgew.edu/cgi/viewcontent.cgi?article=2081&context=br_rev
- A brief history of Hume’s works being banned: https://oll.libertyfund.org/publications/reading-room/2023-10-25-donway-hume-great-work-on-religion-banned
- A handy breakdown from the University of Notre Dame on J.S. Mill’s case for disagreement and free speech in “On Liberty”: https://philife.nd.edu/j-s-mills-on-liberty-seek-disagreement/
- Jacob Mchangama’s book “Free Speech: A History From Socrates to Social Media” https://a.co/d/8lcEV6a

Feb 7, 2024
Feb 7, 2024
1 hr 12 min
Alex speaks with Eric Schliesser about the growing declarations of the end of liberalism and what this means for the socio-political future in general.
Episode Notes:
- Eric Schliesser’s page at the University of Amsterdam https://www.uva.nl/en/profile/s/c/e.s.schliesser/e.s.schliesser.html#Publications
- Kevin Vallier’s episode of this podcast discussing religious anti-liberalism: https://thecurioustask.podbean.com/e/197-kevin-vallier-what-are-the-new-religious-threats-to-liberalism/
- Adrian Vermeulen’s publications https://hls.harvard.edu/faculty/adrian-vermeule/
- Tom Pink’s page at King’s College London: https://www.kcl.ac.uk/people/thomas-pink
- Yoram Hazony’s book on conservatism: https://www.kcl.ac.uk/people/thomas-pink
- Jacob Levy on borders and liberalism: https://www.niskanencenter.org/law-and-border/
