
We explore philosophy, politics, economics, and other ideas from a classical liberal perspective.
Episodes

Aug 9, 2023
Aug 9, 2023
41 min
Alex speaks with Stefanie Haeffele about her recent book Living Better Together, which explores the work of Elinor Ostrom and Viviana Zelizer.
Episode Notes:
"Living Better Together" by Stefanie Haeffele and Virgil Henry Storr:
Viviana Zelizer's homepage at Princeton:
https://sociology.princeton.edu/people/viviana-zelizer
Elinor Ostrom's bio and short autobiography on the Nobel website:
https://www.nobelprize.org/prizes/economic-sciences/2009/ostrom/facts/
Nonneutrality of Money in a Social Perspective by Julia Włodarczyk
https://www.researchgate.net/publication/274184545_Nonneutrality_of_Money_in_a_Social_Perspective
Zelizer's "Circuits of Commerce"
https://doi.org/10.1525/california/9780520241367.003.0009
Ostrom's "Governing The Commons"
Economic Lives: How Culture Shapes the Economy by
Viviana A. Zelizer
https://press.princeton.edu/books/hardcover/9780691139364/economic-lives
"Testing Circuits of Commerce in the Distant Past: Archaeological Understandings of Social Relationships and Economic Lives"
by: Crystal A. Dozier

Aug 2, 2023
Aug 2, 2023
1 hr 3 min
Alex speaks with Scott Scheall about Carl and Karl Menger and their influence on the history of economics, liberal theory, and - yes - mathematics.
Further Reading:
"Karl Menger as Son of Carl Menger" - Scott Scheall & Reinhard Schumacher
https://philarchive.org/rec/SCHKMA-4
Econlib Biography of elder Menger:
https://www.econlib.org/library/Enc/bios/Menger.html
- Dimensiontheorie, 1928
- "On Intuitionism", 1930, Blatter der deutschen Pilosophy
- Kurventheorie, 1932
- "The New Logic", 1933, in Krise und Neuaufbau in den Exackten Wissenschaften
- Moral Wille und Weltgestaltung, 1934.
- "The Role of Uncertainty in Economics", 1934, ZfN
- "Remarks on the Law of Diminishing Returns: A study in meta-economics", 1936, ZfN
- "The Logic of Laws of Return: A study in meta-economics", 1954, in Morgenstern, editor, Economic Activity Analysis.
- "Austrian Marginalism and Mathematical Economics", 1973, in Hicks and Weber, editors, Carl Menger and the Austrian School of Economics
- Morality, decision, and social organization : toward a logic of ethics, 1974.
- Selected Papers in Logic and Foundations, Didactics, Economics, 1979.
- Reminiscences of the Vienna Circle and the Mathematical Colloquium, 1994. (ed. L. Golland, B. McGuinness and A. Sklar) [prev]
- "On the direction of ideas and the principal tendencies of the Vienna Mathematical Colloqium", 1998, in E. Dierker & K. Sigismund, editors, Karl Menger Ergebnisse eines Mathematischen Kolloquiums

Jul 26, 2023

Jul 19, 2023
Jul 19, 2023
54 min
Alex speaks with Nigel Ashford about the prospects for a freer world and how the memory of history, the hope of younger persons, and the teaching of ideas can shape the future of classical liberalism.
Further Reading:
https://libertarianism.uk/wp-content/uploads/2022/03/socin003.pdf
Chapter 2 of this book: https://iea.org.uk/wp-content/uploads/2016/07/Blundell-interactive.pdf
https://fee.org/articles/the-tide-in-the-affairs-of-men/
https://cdn.mises.org/Intellectuals%20and%20Socialism_4.pdf
https://www.libertarianism.org/publications/essays/why-do-intellectuals-oppose-capitalism
http://wordlist.narod.ru/Government-Failure.pdf

Jul 12, 2023
Jul 12, 2023
1 hr 9 min
Alex speaks with Jake Monaghan about ideal vs. ideal theory approaches to policing, the history and function of the police as an institution, and how to respond to police abolitionists.
Episode Notes
Jake's book - the subject of the conversation - can be purchased here: https://a.co/d/ewVS0h9
References are made to G. A. Cohen's Why Not Socialism, which can be read here: https://www3.nd.edu/~pweithma/Readings/Cohen,%20Gerald/Cohen,%20G%20(Why%20not%20Socialism).pdf
... and to "The Dispossessed", which can be read here:
https://files.libcom.org/files/Le%20Guin%20-%20The%20Dispossessed.pdf

Jul 5, 2023
Jul 5, 2023
1 hr 6 min
Alex speaks with Trevour Burrus about his concept of the Statrix and why the solution to every problem should not be more government programs, intervention and restriction.
Episode Notes:
Introductory YouTube video: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Eavx1ZVVyzM
Seeing the Statrix: Invisible and Omnipresent
by Trevor Burrus: https://www.cato.org/sites/cato.org/files/articles/burrus-cap-research-center-10-18-2018.pdf
The Boris Yeltsin Grocery Store Visit:
Trevor’s CATO article about the dairy industry:

Jun 28, 2023
Jun 28, 2023
1 hr 7 min
Alex speaks with Camden Hutchison about the nuances of freedom of expression laws in Canada and the United States, and the ways in which immature understandings of free speech can obfuscate the public discourse surrounding this fundamental right in North American law and politics.
Episode Notes
Freedom of Expression: Values and Harms - Camden Hutchison
https://albertalawreview.com/index.php/ALR/article/view/2733
Guide to the Canadian Charter of Rights and Freedoms (Including Freedom of Expression)
Guide to The Constitution (Including the First Amendment)
Overview of Bill C-19 (Including Division 21 criminalizing various forms of Holocaust denial)
https://www.justice.gc.ca/eng/trans/bm-mb/other-autre/c19/remarks-remarques.html

Jun 21, 2023
Jun 21, 2023
1 hr 5 min
Alex speaks with Pete Boettke about the relevancy of Friedrich Hayek in the contemporary context, what it means to be a "Hayekian" and the curious tale of how Hayek came to be the focus of his latest book "F. A. Hayek: Economics, Political Economy and Social Philosophy"
Episode Notes
- Pete’s book “F. A. Hayek: Economics, Political Economy and Social Philosophy“ https://a.co/d/ah7SpwW
- Hayek on The Stanford Encyclopedia of Philosophy https://plato.stanford.edu/entries/friedrich-hayek/
- Introduction to Hayek’s “Road to Serfdom” https://mises.org/library/road-serfdom-0
- Murray Rothbard’s “Man, Economy and State” retrospective https://fee.org/articles/rothbards-man-economy-and-state-at-50/
- Milton Friedman’s “Free To Choose” https://www.proglocode.unam.mx/sites/proglocode.unam.mx/files/docencia/Milton%20y%20Rose%20Friedman%20-%20Free%20to%20Choose.pdf
- Hayek “Prices and Production” https://mises.org/library/prices-and-production-and-other-works
- Introduction to economics of Lucas https://www.econlib.org/library/Enc/bios/Lucas.html
- Steve Horowitz on Hayek https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=K5dR0zgC1ZI
- Herbert Dreyfuss “What Computers Can’t Do” https://mitpress.mit.edu/9780262540674/what-computers-still-cant-do/
- Horowitz quote on Hayek “we have to learn to live in two worlds at once” https://www.jstor.org/stable/41560288
- Hayek’s “The Fatal Conceit” https://press.uchicago.edu/ucp/books/book/chicago/F/bo3643985.html
- Kenneth Boulding “After Samuelson, Who Needs Adam Smith?” https://read.dukeupress.edu/hope/article-abstract/3/2/225/12381/After-Samuelson-Who-Needs-Adam-Smith
- “The Extended Present” (concept) https://medium.com/extended-present/about
- The “Grapes vs. Cucumbers as pay for Monkeys” experiment (youtube video) https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=meiU6TxysCg
- The Constitution of Liberty - Hayek https://www.mises.at/static/literatur/Buch/hayek-the-constitution-of-liberty.pdf
- Chandran Kukathas’ Liberal Archipelago https://global.oup.com/academic/product/the-liberal-archipelago-9780199219209?cc=ca&lang=en&
- Kind vs. Wicked learning environments. https://www.psychologytoday.com/ca/blog/experience-studio/202007/experience-kind-vs-wicked

Jun 14, 2023
Jun 14, 2023
48 min
Alex speaks with Darwynn Deyo about the many ways in which occupational licensing can in fact reduce efficiency in the workforce, make it harder for people to cross borders, and ultimately reduce economic mobility for already disadvantaged groups.
Episode Notes and Further Reading:
License To Work: A National Study of Burdens from Occupational Licensing (2022) https://ij.org/report/license-to-work-3/
Policy Brief: Licensing Barriers for Women in the Workforce - Dr. Darwyyn Deyo (2022) https://csorwvu.com/policy-brief-licensing-barriers-for-women-in-the-workforce/
Policy Brief: Survey of Universal Licensing Reforms in the United States - Dr. Darwyyn Deyo (2022) https://csorwvu.com/policy-brief-survey-of-universal-licensing-reforms-in-the-united-states/
Testing Licensing and Consumer Satisfaction for Beauty Services in the United States
in Grease or Grit?: International Case Studies of Occupational Licensing and Its
Effects on Efficiency and Quality - Darwyyn Deyo (2022)
Have license, will travel: Measuring the effects of universal licensing
recognition on mobility - Darwyyn Deyo & Alicia Plemmons (2022)
Occupational Licensing: Improving Access to Regulatory Information - Morris M. Kleiner & Edward J. Timmons (2020)
Licensing massage therapists in the name of crime: the case of Harper v Lindsay - Darwyyn Deyo, Blake Hoarty, Conor Norris and Edward Timmons (2020)
Effects of Occupational Licensing and Unions on Labour Market Earnings in Canada
- Tingting Zhang (2019)
Guild-Ridden Labor Markets: The Curious Case of Occupational Licensing - Morris M. Kleiner (2015)

Jun 7, 2023
Jun 7, 2023
37 min
Alex speaks with Fiona Harrigan about the state of immigration in the United States and elsewhere, and the ways in which "outsiders" make "insiders" better off - both instrumentally and categorically.
Episode Notes:
- The Government Is Turning Border Surveillance on Everyday Americans by Fiona Harrigan https://reason.com/2023/03/28/the-government-is-turning-border-surveillance-on-everyday-americans/
- Cutting Legal Immigration Won’t Help Low‐Skilled American Workers By Alex Nowrasteh https://www.cato.org/blog/cutting-legal-immigration-wont-help-low-skilled-american-workers
- NFAP study on Immigrant-founded startups https://nfap.com/wp-content/uploads/2022/07/Immigrant-Entrepreneurs-and-Billion-Dollar-Companies.DAY-OF-RELEASE.2022.pdf
- “Title 42 has ended. Here’s what it did, and how US immigration policy is changing” by Colleen Long https://apnews.com/article/immigration-biden-border-title-42-mexico-asylum-be4e0b15b27adb9bede87b9bbefb798d

May 31, 2023
May 31, 2023
42 min
What's the harm in dreaming big? Significant, James Harrigan believes. Alex and James discuss the many ways in which Utopian theory has led to disaster in practice - From Plato to Lenin and into the present day.
Episode Notes:
- Keynes on Eugenics, Race, and Population Control https://mises.org/wire/keynes-eugenics-race-and-population-control
- Phillip W. Magness, James R. Harrigan; John Maynard Keynes, H. G. Wells, and a Problematic Utopia. History of Political Economy 1 April 2020; 52 (2): 211–238. doi: https://doi.org/10.1215/00182702-8173298
- Plato’s Republic - Ethics and Politics https://plato.stanford.edu/entries/plato-ethics-politics/
- Thomas Moore’s Utopia https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Utopia_(book)
- “The curious task of economics is to demonstrate to men how little they really know about what they imagine they can design” - F.A. Hayek

May 24, 2023
May 24, 2023
58 min
Daniel Weinstock makes the case for lowering the voting age and extending the right to vote to teens who have much more in common with the general voting public than we may think.
Episode Notes:
Daniel Weinstock - “What’s So Funny about Voting Rights for Children?”, in Georgetown Journal of Law and Public Policy, vol. 18, no. 2 (2021), pp. 751 – 771. https://www.law.georgetown.edu/public-policy-journal/wp-content/uploads/sites/23/2021/09/Weinstock.pdf
- Kant’s views on voting rights and the “underclasses” https://academic.oup.com/book/4831/chapter-abstract/147152492?redirectedFrom=fulltext
- Rousseau on “the general will” and deliberation, the force of the better argument. https://plato.stanford.edu/entries/rousseau/#PoliPhil
- John Stewart Mill on weighted votes and plural voting https://www.jstor.org/stable/26220010
- “Votes for children! Why we should lower the voting age to six” by David Runciman https://www.theguardian.com/politics/2021/nov/16/reconstruction-after-covid-votes-for-children-age-six-david-runciman

May 17, 2023
May 17, 2023
53 min
Alex speaks with Professor Jacob Levy about the concept of neutrality within the history of liberalism and how many historical thinkers have approached the subject within that tradition.
Episode Notes:
- Michael Oakeshott on “adverbial rules” https://lawliberty.org/forum/michael-oakeshott-on-the-rule-of-law-and-the-liberal-order/
- John Locke’s religious beliefs https://rb.gy/1yg43
- Heresy of Americanism https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Americanism_(heresy)
- Deirdre McCloskey’s Bourgeois Virtues Thesis https://www.deirdremccloskey.com/docs/bv_selection.pdf
- Ronald Dworkin “Liberalism” https://www.scribd.com/document/313373358/Ronald-Dworkin-Liberalism#
- Stephanie Slade, "Must Libertarians Care About More Than the State?" https://reason.com/2022/03/19/two-libertarianisms/
- Alexis De Toqueville’s concerns about the rising liberal democratic order https://www.economist.com/schools-brief/2018/08/09/de-tocqueville-and-the-french-exception
- John Stuart Mill “On Liberty” https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/On_Liberty

May 10, 2023
May 10, 2023
1 hr 2 min
Alex speaks with Aurelian Craiutu about the importance of moderation when it comes to virtue, political discourse, and the balancing of extremes in a world full of radicals.
Episode Notes:
- Aurelian Craiutu - Why Not Moderation? Letters to Young Radicals https://a.co/d/1LVcadG
- Aurelian Craiutu - Faces of Moderation: The Art of Balance in an Age of Extremes https://a.co/d/6cVwv5F
- Thomas Osborne - Moderation as Government: Montesquieu and the Divisibility of Power https://www.tandfonline.com/doi/full/10.1080/10848770.2023.2172780
- The Golden Mean in Philosophy: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Golden_mean_(philosophy)
- The Pocket Oracle and Art of Prudence Paperback by Balthasar Gracian https://a.co/d/hgyXcYG
- The 48 Laws of Power Paperback by Robert Greene https://a.co/d/96ifKoz
- A Propensity to Self-Subversion by Albert O. Hirschman https://www.hup.harvard.edu/catalog.php?isbn=9780674715585

May 3, 2023
May 3, 2023
59 min
Alex speaks with Jason Kuznicki about the societal tendency towards stagnation - and away from liberalism - and its roots in some of the earliest human civilizations.
References
1. “Technology and the End of Authority: What Is Government For?” by Jason Kuznicki
Link: https://www.amazon.ca/Technology-End-Authority-What-Government/dp/3319486918
2. Jason’s previous episode “What Is Government For?” on The Curious Task
Link: https://thecurioustask.podbean.com/e/ep-12-jason-kuznicki-%e2%80%94-what-is-government-for/
3. “The Domus Mindset: The Origins of Civilization, the Ruling Class, and Why It’s so Hard to Think About Freedom” by Jason Kuznicki
Link: https://pacification.substack.com/p/the-domus-mindset
4. “The Future and Its Enemies: The Growing Conflict Over Creativity, Enterprise, and Progress” by Virginia Postrel
Link: https://www.amazon.ca/Future-Its-Enemies-Creativity-Enterprise/dp/0684862697

Apr 26, 2023
Apr 26, 2023
1 hr 6 min
Alex speaks with Monica Guzman about the need for curiosity as a remedy for the increasing polarization in American discourse and her recent book on the subject "I Never Thought of It That Way: How to Have Fearlessly Curious Conversations in Dangerously Divided Times"
Monica's book:

Apr 19, 2023
Apr 19, 2023
59 min
Alex and Nolan discuss a novel solution to many of the difficult issues surrounding housing in North America: the elimination of zoning laws.
Further Reading and References:
https://www.theatlantic.com/ideas/archive/2022/06/zoning-housing-affordability-nimby-parking-houston/661289/
https://reason.com/2022/06/21/abolish-zoning-all-of-it/
https://www.bloomberg.com/news/articles/2017-09-04/how-houston-s-zoning-can-help-hurricane-harvey-recovery
https://www.bloomberg.com/news/articles/2018-07-26/manufactured-homes-are-the-cheap-housing-fix-we-need
https://www.bloomberg.com/news/articles/2019-01-28/cities-don-t-use-zoning-to-exclude-families-with-kids
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gRUbDvMpyCM&ab_channel=VancouverPublicLibrary
https://marketurbanism.com/2018/07/30/how-should-we-interpret-jane-jacobs/
https://marketurbanism.com/2016/02/21/who-plans-jane-jacobs-hayekian-critique-of-urban-planning/
https://www.planetizen.com/blogs/121786-jane-jacobs-and-zoning

Apr 12, 2023
Apr 12, 2023
50 min
Alex and Mike Munger discuss two strains of thought within the liberty movement - one concerned with philosophical purity and cohesion, the other with advancement towards a common ideal of greater freedom for all.
Episode Notes:
Mike's article "The Right Kind of Nothing": https://www.chronicle.com/article/the-right-kind-of-nothing/
An introduction to Coasian bargaining:
http://www.ejolt.org/2015/09/coasian-bargaining-2/
The Piece commissioned by Leonard Read by Milton Friedman and George Stigler on Rent Control:
https://fee.org/resources/roofs-or-ceilings-the-current-housing-problem/
Mike Munger's piece "This Is Why We Can't Have Nice Things"
James Buchanan on Relatively Absolute Absolutes
https://link.springer.com/article/10.1007/s11127-021-00883-0

Apr 5, 2023
Apr 5, 2023
58 min
Alex and Dennis discuss the very colorful character who, unbeknownst to many, wrote the American Constitution.
Episode Notes:
Dennis' book "The Constitution's Penman"
The American Constitution https://www.archives.gov/founding-docs/constitution-transcript
The Federalist Papers https://www.congress.gov/resources/display/content/The+Federalist+Papers
Roosevelt's biography of Morris
bit.ly/3zEEVlU
Gouverneur Morris' speech on the franchise for slaves:
https://www.blackpast.org/african-american-history/1787-gouverner-morris-curse-slavery/
William Pierce's description of Morris:

Mar 29, 2023
Mar 29, 2023
1 hr 44 sec
Alex and Sabine speak about the state of classical liberalism in terms of individual rights and economic freedom in Canada today.
Works referenced:
Hayek's "Why I Am Not A Conservative": https://press.uchicago.edu/books/excerpt/2011/hayek_constitution.html
